tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3926482844100900134.post3564278174473187996..comments2023-10-11T10:15:08.092-04:00Comments on Internal Gong Fu: Mechanistic or Organic: Journal Notes #26Mike at internalgongfu.blogspot.comhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16522311573919277909noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3926482844100900134.post-62345028461776008052011-02-15T16:53:57.436-05:002011-02-15T16:53:57.436-05:00Sometimes a method will feel like a force to you b...Sometimes a method will feel like a force to you because it is engaging your forceful resistance to the method that is pointing out to you your resistance to relaxing and feeling.<br /><br />If you simply let go where you are holding and forcing against relaxing, there would be no "sticky points". Right?<br /><br />But alas, you are where you are.<br /><br />How deeply can you simply stand and relax?<br /><br />You can't force the feeling of relax.<br /><br />It's a very personal journey. Only you can make the changes.Mike at internalgongfu.blogspot.comhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16522311573919277909noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3926482844100900134.post-80759106976246226332011-02-15T13:04:50.571-05:002011-02-15T13:04:50.571-05:00Ruike and Dan both make some great points!
I woul...Ruike and Dan both make some great points!<br /><br />I would just like to add that using force against force would be like forcing yourself not to use force. So in Wujifa they say you can sometimes use force as a method to notice something, an opportunity if you will. Saying you "MUST NOT" use force is digging the rabbit hole of force deeper. So let's explore the opportunity and see if a medicine can help reveal something that we could learn from and then move past the medicine and frames if force to a more useful opportunity. The method if force is a very strong medicine or addictive method and is by no means a way of life. Forcing oneself to not use force is like a double bind... Learning from, like the taste of bitter medicine can share great insights. <br /><br />Thank you Mike, Dan, and RuiKe for this insightful exchange. I always enjoy my School Brothers insights.Rickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03435911314664052046noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3926482844100900134.post-45824757968554460002011-02-15T12:13:42.852-05:002011-02-15T12:13:42.852-05:00Exploring like one who explores... Through the thi...Exploring like one who explores... Through the thick jungle or when climbing through a tight spot in a cave... It can really be a lot of work. Hard work may be lots if fun then again it may nit be so fun although very insightful... Insights when exploring can create key opportunities for development. <br /><br />The idea of force as a medicine is more about noticing. Some people have patterns so ingrained the they may be using an external or projection or advoidance believing they don't use force. In many internal martial arts the talk about eating bitter. Eating bitter can be helpful. Now this could be a reframe fir force... Don't force it learn to eat bitter... Learn to hang in there even if it is uncomfortable and it tastes bad to you as it is medicine. Some might think of this as force...<br /><br />I never liked "Star Wars" talking about the force as force seemed like the dark side... We can feel the flow and sometimes this well be pressure... Which is like force... <br /><br />Noticing, exploring, I believe even with the method of the medicine of force maybe useful... When it helps you notice more... Many people avoid bitter flavor and only eat sweet... This can be bad for one's health. So I believe noticing is the key to the oppertunity within the Wujifa medicine of sometimes using force to notice something about yourself. If one does not like the Idea of ever using force and I understand this the I would suggest eating bitter as being the better oppertunity for discovery.RuiKehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02516873777550741785noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3926482844100900134.post-26211592011211524282011-02-14T23:38:32.125-05:002011-02-14T23:38:32.125-05:00Hmm... This post has got my thinking. Controlling...Hmm... This post has got my thinking. Controlling posture or breath or mind seems like it is overly rigid, but a lot of the old QiGong stuff talks about "regulating" those things. I wonder what this regulation is that allows everything to be harmonious without causing more tension and rigidity? <br /><br />I've had some feelings before of "doing" things without force. For example, reaching over and grabbing a glass of water when I'm thirsty doesn't feel like I'm "forcing" myself.<br /><br />But it seems in stance sometimes, when I go to "do" the more dropped, aligned posture, I hit sticky spots. When you hit sticky spots, how do you keep "doing" stance without forcing?<br /><br />When I try to force myself past these sticky spots, and use it as a medicine, it seems to create a lot of friction. I know in Wujifa we talk about using force as a medicine sometimes, but it seems like there might be another way, more in line with the old Tai Chi adage not to use force against force. Any thoughts?Dan Hoffmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11299494408170285120noreply@blogger.com